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Michelin 295/80R22.5 in lieu of 12R22.5 on tag and drive on 2001-200

Yahoo Message Number: 110531
I apologize in advance if this topic has been covered. Don't really know how to search for specific topic. Would be happy to take guidance on the subject.

I have a 2002 42' Affinity with tag. 2014 315/80R22.5 XZA2 ENERGY Michelins on steer (original size) and 2011 Toyos 12R22.5 (the original tire size) on the drive and tag. Michelin only makes the XZE for this size anymore.

Looking to replace the 6 drive and tag tires.

Can anybody comment on the XZE ride in 12R22.5?

Has anybody put any of the below 295/80R22.5 (the three Michelin tires available on the FMCA site) on their tag and drive axles on a 2001-2001 Affinity or Magna? I think the 295 is about an inch shorter and same width.

Pretty set on Michelins, and if I stay with 12R22.5, the only choice is the standard XZE. If I go 295/80R22.5 I can go XZA2 ENERGY 152M or X MULTIWAY 3D XZE.

Anybody know if there is a significant difference in XZE vs X MULTIWAY 3D XZE?

Or 295/80R22.5 of any maker on their 2001-2003 Affinity or Magna?

Tire DescriptionMICHELIN 295/80R22.5 XZA2 ENERGY 152M LRH TreadXZA2 Energy MSPN76807

Tire DescriptionMICHELIN 295/80R22.5 X COACH H LZ LRH TreadX Coach H LZ MSPN31078

Tire DescriptionMICHELIN 295/80R22.5 X MULTIWAY 3D XZE LRH TreadX Multiway 3D XZE MSPN07719

Thanks,
Keith

Affinity 6123

Re: Michelin 295/80R22.5 in lieu of 12R22.5 on tag and drive on 2001

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 110532
Just installed the energy295 80R XZA2 on the rears and 315 XZA2 on the steer axle..

Great ride!! Like your Mom's Cadillac.....

Steve

2000 Magna, #5784

Re: Michelin 295/80R22.5 in lieu of 12R22.5 on tag and drive on 2001

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 110533
Thanks for the response!

A tire guy I was talking to today said the XZA2s were a much better ride and about 1" shorter in height overall, same width and same load rating as the XZE. So it sounds like there wasn't any fitment issues. I'm really leaning towards replacing the 12R22.5s with 295/80R22.5 XZA2s.
I saw on some old posts speedometer will read faster than actual. Does the speedometer run off the Steer or Drive tires?

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:47 PM, "steve.irene@... [Country-Coach-Owners]"  wrote:

Just installed the energy295 80R XZA2 on the rears and 315 XZA2 on the steer axle..

Great ride!! Like your Mom's Cadillac.....

Steve

2000 Magna, #5784

Re: Michelin 295/80R22.5 in lieu of 12R22.5 on tag and drive on 2001

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 110545
A little bad info previously.....the XZA2s have about 500 lb more load rating and are slightly wider but require the same dual spacing as the XZEs.

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 9:14 PM, "jerry kubena kubenajk@... [Country-Coach-Owners]"  wrote:

Thanks for the response!

A tire guy I was talking to today said the XZA2s were a much better ride and about 1" shorter in height overall, same width and same load rating as the XZE. So it sounds like there wasn't any fitment issues. I'm really leaning towards replacing the 12R22.5s with 295/80R22.5 XZA2s.
I saw on some old posts speedometer will read faster than actual. Does the speedometer run off the Steer or Drive tires?

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:47 PM, "steve.irene@... [Country-Coach-Owners]"  wrote:

Just installed the energy295 80R XZA2 on the rears and 315 XZA2 on the steer axle..

Great ride!! Like your Mom's Cadillac.....

Steve

2000 Magna, #5784

Re: Michelin 295/80R22.5 in lieu of 12R22.5 on tag and drive on 2001

Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 110551
Hi Steve, we have a 2000 magna also, we need some tires also, we have 12 r now, how does the 295 ride and any diffent in hight that you can tell. Thanks Charles 5886

Re: Michelin 295/80R22.5 in lieu of 12R22.5 on tag and drive on 2001

Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 110558
Hi, Steve, thanks for the feedback on 295, look like the way to go, Charles 5886

Re: Michelin 295/80R22.5 in lieu of 12R22.5 on tag and drive on 2001

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 110559
The specs for the XZA2s

295/80R22.5

Loaded radius overall diameter overall width approv wheels min dual space 19.1 41.3 11.8 8.25, 9.0 13.2

revs/mile max load single max load dual 503 7830 @ 120 psi 6940

315/80R22.5

Loaded radius overall diameter overall width approv wheels min dual space 19.5 42.3 12.5 9.00 13.8

revs/mile max load single max load dual 492 9090 @ 130psi 8270@130

For the XZE 12R22.5

Loaded radius overall diameter overall width approv wheels min dual space

19.8 42.6 11.4 8.25, 9.00 13.2

revs/mile max load single max load dual

486 7390 6780

It would be great to be able to put the 315s on the drive and tag for extra safety but it would be cutting it close on the dual spacing and the extra width. The 12Rs are actually taller by .3 than the 315s (which also means total tire height all the way around the coach is withing .3" overall and .3 load radius difference when running 315s/12Rs, taller in the back vs a 1" overall and .4 load radius difference, taller in front, running 315s/12Rs.

Is this significant when it comes to ride height when changing from 12Rs to 295s?

Anybody put 315s on the back on a 01-03 Affinity or Magna with C12 or is not an option given fitment?

Thanks!

On Thursday, April 6, 2017 8:19 AM, "blacktoproute55@... [Country-Coach-Owners]"  wrote:

Hi Steve, we have a 2000 magna also, we need some tires also, we have 12 r now, how does the 295 ride and any diffent in hight that you can tell. Thanks Charles 5886

Re: Michelin 295/80R22.5 in lieu of 12R22.5 on tag and drive on 2001

Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 110584
I have installed 315 80 22.5 tires on all tire positions on my 2003 Magna. These are not Michelin tires. They are Continental HSL1 Coach tires installed by Les Schwab in Junction city in 2012. I have since replaced the front two with Michelin 315s. When I replace the drive and tag tires in the future it will be with either 12R or 295 80s. The Conti 315s fit on the 8.25 wheels and clear the wheel well trim....but just barely. I don't believe the Mich 315 are speced for 8.25 wheels.

George in Birmingham
'03 Magna 6298
George in Birmingham
2003 Magna 6298

Michelin 295/80R22.5 in lieu of 12R22.5 on tag and drive on 2001

Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 110547
I'm thinking the speedo probably runs off the drive tires. I've got oversize tires all around on my '08 Allure and both the speedo and the cruise control run lower than actual speed as shown on the GPS. The difference is about 5%. When I call up 60 mph on the cruise, the speedo shows about 60, but the rig is running 3 mph faster - at 63 mph. Similar % differences apply across the range.

Don Hutchins

'08 Allure 470 40' tag, Cat C-9 w/ Cat tranny
Don Hutchins
'08 Allure 470 #31613
40' w/tag, Cat C-9 & Cat tranny

Re: Michelin 295/80R22.5 in lieu of 12R22.5 on tag and drive on 2001

Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 110549
thanks

On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 10:38 PM, "'Don Hutchins' dbhutchins@... [Country-Coach-Owners]"  wrote:

I'm thinking the speedo probably runs off the drive tires. I've got oversize tires all around on my '08 Allure and both the speedo and the cruise control run lower than actual speed as shown on the GPS. The difference is about 5%. When I call up 60 mph on the cruise, the speedo shows about 60, but the rig is running 3 mph faster "" at 63 mph. Similar % differences apply across the range.

Don Hutchins

'08 Allure 470 40' tag, Cat C-9 w/ Cat tranny

Michelin 295/80R22.5 in lieu of 12R22.5 on tag...

Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 110550
The speedo is actually driven from the engine ECU. The ECU can be programmed to make the speedo correct .

Mikee